tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post2476031059430219299..comments2023-09-19T04:36:54.990-07:00Comments on Bored Yak: The Politics of EcoBoredYakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10434733936840943960noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-38937047220342880762009-02-28T15:54:00.000-08:002009-02-28T15:54:00.000-08:00Yeah, aside from the name, that's a rad idea. Some...Yeah, aside from the name, that's a rad idea. Some people are in the loop and others (who might avoid vegan food) just don't give a shit. Works for a hot dog stand, but in the hyper-competitive snowboard industry? There must be a happy medium in the amount of advertising. Unfortunately it's 'more is better' these days. When I see a Burton ad on a urinal cake, I'm done snowboarding...BoredYakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10434733936840943960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-4720398963357064122009-02-27T11:37:00.000-08:002009-02-27T11:37:00.000-08:00and yes: "Cyber Dogs" is a really stupid name.and yes: "Cyber Dogs" is a really stupid name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-11383241253530821732009-02-27T11:35:00.000-08:002009-02-27T11:35:00.000-08:00There's this hot dog place next to the Convention ...There's this hot dog place next to the Convention Center in Seattle: Cyber Dogs. All their dogs are vegan, but they don't even tell anybody: they just sell the pinstriped banker conventioneer their superkielbasa and take their money... I think I'd be more apt to embrace an eco-friendly board if it were more like that--because I'm pretty much a hippie. <BR/><BR/>That they're ALL doing it at once now, just like upside down rocker shit, just sours me a little bit on the whole thing...because, once again, I'm a hippie. <BR/><BR/>I guess though, that the ends justify the means; and if it's super mass marketing copycat bullshit that turns everything (anything?) around--that's better than nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-65014453472972484022009-02-26T22:03:00.000-08:002009-02-26T22:03:00.000-08:00Great to get some feedback, now let me see if I ca...Great to get some feedback, now let me see if I can clear some things up.<BR/><BR/>Jackie, you know what they say about assumption. Putting the screws to suspected greenwashers (snowboard industry or not) is the only way to know for sure. That blog post makes sense, too. Yet another facet.<BR/><BR/>Alex, I mostly agree. In the winter, though, 'snowboarding' and 'lifestyle' pretty much merge for me. Which makes me glad I have some choices in the snowboard industry that reflect my attempt at an eco-conscious lifestyle. You're right, the rest of my life takes far more resources (I'm working on that), but this is a (mostly) snowboard-centric blog.I'll let <A HREF="http://grist.org" REL="nofollow">other</A> <A HREF="http://sierraclub.typepad.com/greenlife" REL="nofollow">sites</A> do the eco-conscious lifestyle tips.<BR/><BR/>Supporting green products is also tougher when they're so expensive. That's the hardest for me, reconciling double the price. Maybe if I could catch a good sale on something that I needed...<BR/><BR/>drexnefex, there are *some* standards. <A HREF="http://www.bluesign.com/" REL="nofollow">Bluesign</A> is one for the textile industry. Maybe ASTM? Don't know much about that.<BR/><BR/>Small changes wherever possible? You know I'm down for that, Marc. Personally, I'm consuming less until people start <A HREF="http://www.mcdonough.com/cradle_to_cradle.htm" REL="nofollow">designing</A> products with future life cycles in mind.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comments and, as always, keep 'em coming.BoredYakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10434733936840943960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-38216439916294625642009-02-25T09:27:00.000-08:002009-02-25T09:27:00.000-08:00I have to agree with Alex in that the biggest prob...I have to agree with Alex in that the biggest problem is not snowboarding, it's a general lifestyle thing; I smell what you're cooking bro. However, we also can't use that as a rationale to avoid making small changes wherever possible. As I learned with childhood economics: a penny saved is a penny earned. The same rule also applies to our carbon footprint: any way we can find to make it smaller can't be wrong. The trick is in making sure it is in fact getting smaller and not bigger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-49682773294569596802009-02-25T08:20:00.000-08:002009-02-25T08:20:00.000-08:00great post man.with no standards in the "green/eco...great post man.<BR/><BR/>with no standards in the "green/eco" movement you can debate over this till you turn...blue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-87545253881996873892009-02-24T15:18:00.000-08:002009-02-24T15:18:00.000-08:00I just have a hard time believing that it's the sn...I just have a hard time believing that it's the snowboards themselves that have the biggest negative ecological impact...I get that you gotta start somewhere, but...<BR/><BR/>The clothes...the driving...the nacho cheese...the subsequent noxious gas emissions from the bathrooms...in the lodges...next to the parking lots...and the condos...and the etc etc etc<BR/><BR/>As I see it: it's not a snowboard thing, it's a every day lifestyle thing. <BR/><BR/>Blaming the Snowboard Industry (or any internal political wranglings therein) for not producing green products is the real cop-out: you want green products?--demand and support green products! There's only one green that matters, yadig... Waiting for eco-consciousness to trickle down is pretty naive.<BR/><BR/>PREACH!<BR/><BR/>lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8618380051125395063.post-41950246447266034202009-02-24T13:33:00.000-08:002009-02-24T13:33:00.000-08:00Counterintuitively, greenwash -- real or perceived...<I>Counterintuitively, greenwash -- real or perceived -- can actually be good for a corporation if that business genuinely wants to become green.</I> I think I can wrap my brain around that. But I have the assumption that most greenwashers don't want to actually become green.<BR/><BR/><I>some other companies have exclusives on those materials </I> That is such bullshit. And makes me so angry. Seems to me that those other companies are in it majorly for the image, not becuase they want to be green. (Oh yeah, they're major brands, what are brands about besides image). To prevent someone else from being as eco as they can be is NOT the eco thing to do. It's not good for the planet, not good for the sales of eco products and its not good for the cost of the materials. True, eco products don't sell well and I'm sure that is entirely due to their cost. But if MORE manufactures used the better materials, the cost of those materials would go down! Here http://www.liquididea.com/2008/12/raising_the_price_of_quality.html is a blog post from a former co-worker of mine with a simplified example of how mass manufacture of low quality goods increases the price of high quality. Its the same idea.<BR/>Yay Greasebus!Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17242251812657535303noreply@blogger.com